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4 months 2 weeks ago #47778 by David H
Hi Vince, Aladar, Rodrigo and all

I'm back after a prolonged time away due to the kind of things which life tends to unexpectedly throw at you sometimes.

I've been watching the ongoing development taking place over time though, my-oh-my, you chaps have been busy! Jomres is really, really, impressive. I'm looking forward to getting stuck-in again, and I'm especially encouraged by the syndication Vince, a master-stroke, which I want to get into pronto.

I've been slightly dispirited by the rise of Airbnb, and the effect it's had on some small rental agencies, but I think I may've spotted a couple of niches.

So then, onwards and upwards...

Bon weekend!

David

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4 months 2 weeks ago #47779 by Vince Wooll
Welcome back, David.

If you like the syndication, you're going to love the channel management framework (when it's done, not long now).

I've been slightly dispirited by the rise of Airbnb, and the effect it's had on some small rental agencies


I feel you, but us little guys will continue to innovate with the goal of offering powerful tools for the more discerning users who value openness and transparency.

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4 months 2 weeks ago #47780 by David H
Thanks Vince, I'll keep a lookout for the channel management framework.
David

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1 month 4 days ago - 1 month 4 days ago #47867 by David H
Hi Vince et al

Well, another three months have passed, since I declared "I'm back" - phew, what a few months it's been for us all! I'm glad to see that you're still hanging in there down in Spain, you've had a pretty hard lock-down, just like we have here in France, but easing now.

I want to get Jomres2Jomres up and running on my site now, and looking forward to getting stuck in, hosting more properties.

Bon dimanche!

David
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1 month 3 days ago #47868 by Vince Wooll
Hi David,

tell me, what's your vision for using jomres2jomres?

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2 weeks 1 day ago #47888 by David H
Hi Vince
Sorry for taking a while to get back to you - busy, busy, catching up with the jungle outside, which used to be a garden - but now my flippin' strimmer's gone phut!

My vision? I want to host other agents props. on my site. To be honest, most of our own have now gone awol. We used to have around 70 props. which were more or less exclusive to us, and managed by us, welcoming, cleaning, picking-up from airports etc. etc. But now times are different...

I've used the Rest API test a few times, and receive a favourable report back, but the clientid is 'system' and I have a secret key being generatedl. But it appears I don't have the correct credentials.

Fancy using my site as a test site in the wild so-to-speak. It runs on my own dedicated server (alongside other client sites - not travel though)?

Kiind regards

David

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2 weeks 23 hours ago #47889 by Vince Wooll

But it appears I don't have the correct credentials.


Why do you say that?
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1 week 6 days ago #47890 by David H
Hi Vince

Thanks for getting back, it's probably because I'm not sure how it's supposed to work!

Joomla 9.3.19
Jomres 9.22.0
PHP 7.3.19

Under REST API client details I have client id 'system' and underneath a secret key - is that correct?

Then underneath I have the message:

"The test appeared to go as expected, you will probably not have any problem receiving REST API requests from the rest of the Internet." - which seems the correct response to receive back.

But at the bottom of the page I have this message:

"Your site is not currently listed on the Jomres App server, which is part of the syndication network. This server will try again to add this server to the network on the next 6 page loads. If, after a few page loads, this does not change please check that the connectivity test above passes the tests. Note, localhost servers cannot be added to the network." - which doesn't look too good to me!

Under Site Configuration > Channel Manager Accounts I have two accounts listed:

Jomres2Jomres and Rentals United and the the authorisation fields are blank. I appreciate that I probably have to sign up for a Rentals United account.

But how do I get a Jomres2Jomres Parent site client id, Parent site client secret and Parent url ?

As you can see, I'm a tad confused!

Bon dimanche!

David

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1 week 4 days ago #47893 by Vince Wooll
The app server has very little to do with jomres2jomres (although it is used for trying to determine new property locales).

Vis-a-vis your confusion, have you looked at this page yet?

www.jomres.net/manual/developers-guide-2...etwork-of-properties

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4 days 23 hours ago #47897 by David H
Hi Vince

Told you I was confused didn't I?!

No, I haven't looked at the developers guide link you included above. I did look at some other pages though.

I thought that the Jomres community were able to kind of club together and display each other's properties as they liked, via a Jomres2Jomres portal idea.

I shall have to take a closer look at the manual - me uvver'arf is always having a go at me for not reading instruction manuals...

Kind regards - stay safe

David

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4 days 20 hours ago #47898 by Vince Wooll
Hi David.

The Jomres Syndicate Network is for sharing links back to parent sites.

Jomres2jomres is able having full property sharing between sites, effectively it allows one to behave as a parent, children pull properties into themselves and booking and review information is shared in both directions as they change. It's way more involved than the JSN.

In the longer term I want to find a way to allow site owners to import properties from other sites, sell bookings on these child sites (even though they're not necessarily owned by the child site owner) so that, using Stripe Connect, there can be some sharing of income from the booking payments. That's very much at the "thinking hard" stage right now because there's the issue of trust. With parent properties and child properties in the scenario you describe, the child site owner may not be a trusted user therefore I need to find a way to ensure that there aren't abuses of the system.

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