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Integrate Jomres hotel with Jomres portal?

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9 months 2 weeks ago - 9 months 1 week ago #46734 by iain
Greetings,
I see that Jomres has the function of -
Embed calendar in an off site website
And
Embed Booking form in an off site website

My question is - Is it posible to 'link' a Jomres hotel website with a Jomres Portal website so that the two are in sync?
Ie - A customer has created a listing on the jomres portal but would like an off site/ stand alone website built
Can I build a jomres 'hotel' website so that the hotel listing reflects the jomres 'portal' listing and vice versa?

Thanks in advance
Iain
Last edit: 9 months 1 week ago by iain . Reason: Marked as solved
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9 months 2 weeks ago #46735 by Rodrigo Rocco
Hi Iain, you would need Beds24 CM to make it happen www.beds24.com/channel-manager.html

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9 months 2 weeks ago #46736 by Vince Wooll
I think Iain's question was more along the lines of this thread github.com/WoollyinWalesIT/jomres/issues/156

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9 months 2 weeks ago #46737 by Rodrigo Rocco
Yep

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9 months 1 week ago #46738 by iain
Greetings and thank you both for your replies
the github thread was quite interesting.
Can't help thinking though that to say that only 7 eople have asked for it seems an odd way of looking at it, I am sure that if the question was asked to your users that many others would respond to the positive.
It does seem rather odd that if a customer were to ask me to build a site for them that I would be better off using a different theme/template other than jomres (Due to being able to add the embed features)
Just think how many more jomres installs there would be, And how many more licences may be sold, if there were a package that enabled this integration.
And the customers website would also match the look of theor portallisting.

Please don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the jomres product and services I just think that there is an opportunity here that has not been fully explored.
Have a great day
Iain
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9 months 1 week ago #46739 by Vince Wooll
If it were a simple plugin, it could be doable, but what you're effectively asking for is a whole lot more than that.

There's total synchronisation between the master and slave servers. Add to that user authentication, then the fact that on the master you'd want to enforce some kind of licensing of the INDIVIDUAL properties in the slaves to the master ( because that's where it would go next) and you start getting into a very high maintenance system.

Next question : Which is the authority server? The master? In that case, do users register on the master then have their own servers as slaves that feed off the master? How do they register? How are they charged?

If it's the Slave, then what's the business model for that? Do slaves simple export their data to the master, which in turn sends details out to other "slaves". Who is the "master slave" in this relationship? Again, how does the business model work?

What starts off seeming small, to make it appeal to many people it suddenly starts becoming much, much larger.

So, months to build, and users would need our ongoing support to maintain it because it's a very complex system.

The bottom line has to be "Who's going to pay for it?" This isn't a question about how much profit from it can I make, but more "Can I maintain the existing Jomres business AND the other system on top of it?" Given that there's very little interest in it, no I can't.

Now, if somebody were to come to me and say "Vince, guaranteed we will sponsor this for X€. We have a very clear idea of what our requirements are and we want you to build Y based on these requirements" then it's worth looking at, but right now the limited amount of interest doesn't make it a viable economic opportunity.

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9 months 1 week ago #46740 by iain
HI Vince,

Thank you for your comprehensive reply, Much appreciated. and explained a lot. Technically and financial viability

So....
How about a Jomres template/theme offering then that users can then add the existing Jomres 'Embed' features to that has a similar look and feel to the existing
Jomres product

This may be for a 3rd party developer to create and offer.
I just feel that it would be great for operators of jomres portals to be able to offer the service of a listing on the portal and a linked site that is similar in looks.
But then again I suppose that one could just use the same template/theme on the hotel site as was used on the Portal site
I shall mark as closed in my 'Things to do' list :)

BTW - Do you offer a support only license, I thought I remebered that in the past there was one but am unable to see such an offering now

Thanks again
Iain
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9 months 1 week ago #46741 by Vince Wooll
The support only license was for supplementing users who'd bought Zero then realised that booking engines are a wee bit more complicated then a simple directory plugin.

Several of my customers with the original "lifetime" licenses ( from back in the day ) have since taken out Subscription licenses as a way of continuing to support the project. Is that what you had in mind?

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9 months 1 week ago #46742 by iain
Being from, Back in the day, Purchased my first license back in 2007
A support subscription would be great, Please......
I would understand if not and would then be happy to start up the monthly subscription
But had to ask first, No point spending money when one needn't have :)
(This is only a hobby for me and play with it now and again, One day I might get round to launching a business)
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9 months 1 week ago - 9 months 1 week ago #46743 by iain
Hi Vince,
Sorry, I misread your reply
Would it be ok with you if I took out the single license?
It would be the most cost effective for me and want to check with you if ok first to use a single license for portal support
I am fairly familiar with the workings of jomres and Wp but would have a few teething set up/cfg issues for tickets to start with
My Site so farSite is already set up

Regards
Iain
Last edit: 9 months 1 week ago by iain . Reason: added site info
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9 months 1 week ago #46744 by Vince Wooll
Of course, not a problem mate.

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9 months 1 week ago #46745 by iain
Big thanks Vince, Much appreciated
Hope you have a great weekend
I shall subscribe now :)
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9 months 1 week ago #46746 by Vince Wooll
Awesome, thanks Iain.

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